Arsène Wenger

What you said did make sense…
However, despite the team lost Cesc and RVP, Arsenal was still a top 4 team.
Price of a star player was still realistic.

If Sanchez and Ozil are gone this summer, the team will be on a much much worse situation than in 2012.
No more a top 4 team, the team is aging, won’t spend and can’t spend the amount of money to replace Sanchez and Ozil’s equivalent talent, and Wenger’s reputation has further more tarnished.

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This season we have 5 players out of contract, next season we have 12 !
If we think this season is bad , you wait till next season .

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  1. We’ve probably won more stuff since Cesc and RvP left than we did with them here.
  2. nothing really says Özil is leaving.
  3. We’ve been out of top 4 for 6 months out of 20+ years
  4. we just fielded the youngest team since 2012 vs Bournemouth.
  5. we can obviously spend to replace Özil and Sanchez as we’ve bought several players in their price range. Since we traded Ox for Laca during summer we probably have even more money than usual atm.
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The fact that he hasn’t signed a contract yet is a pretty big fucking indication. I dont see many of our rivals or other big clubs having their best player (x2 but we aren’t really talking about Sanchez here) with only six months to run on their deal.

Sure Özil could stay, but I think it’s a bit disingenuous to act as if there’s nothing to suggest that he is leaving.

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Özil would have signed by now.

He’s off sadly and honestly who can blame him.

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cant say for definite with him, maybe he is waiting for things to happen so he makes his mind up. he is pushing for a move so maybe he is waiting to see what wenger does and if he will be the main man with things pointing to building a team around him.

There’s only one who Arsène builds his team around and sadly that one is Arsène.

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Sorry… to answer by points is more faster… :slight_smile:

1/ Both Sanchez and Ozil had said multiple times that, they were not here for the FA Cups.
So we might have won more FA cups, League cups, and/or Emirate Cups than the Cesc/RVP era, but still, top 4 (getting into CL) is more attractive than just being a domestic cup team

2/ Some already said… Ozil STILL hasn’t signed the extension, and there is no sign he will sign it. It is more likely he will leave (in January or in summer) than he will stay

3/ Not in the CL this season is enough. I am not like Wenger, like to brag how many consecutive seasons in the CL… this season, we are not in, and this is one major deciding factor why Sanchez and/or Ozil won’t stay

4/ yeah, the youngest team against Bournemouth… and?? pretty good/decent first half but in the end still collapsed. We played like a mid-table team than a top-4 or top-6 team

5/ Money is not a factor… the factor is, will we spend, and spend wisely…

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well, mostly fair enough, agree to disagree on the rest :+1:

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Just to put things into perspective Tottenham, Chelsea, Man City, Man U and Liverpool couldn’t compete with Leicester that season.

They even have better squads than us.

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None of those teams were top of the league and threw it away though. Every team has their bad seasons but they don’t all completely bottle their good ones.

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All those clubs and Leicester had new managers.
Wenger is the most experienced manager in Europe with a squad he built himself and far better players than Leicester.

He blew it, and there is no excuse.

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Arsenal & Wenger deserve the criticism for that season.

But I don’t see any reason why other big club with far expensive squad don’t get half the criticism.
Especially when Chelsea had a disaster of a season.

Well they did something about it didn’t they?

Chelsea were crap - sacked Mourinho

City were crap - sacked Pellegrini, got Pep in

United were crap - patched Van Gaal off

Liverpool - sacked Rodgers

Arsenal though…changed nothing.

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Change shouldn’t eradicate previous fuckup.
Laud them for reacting but why can’t we criticise Top clubs to collectively allow Leicester to win the league.

They all had new managers and most were in their first season in the PL.
Wenger was the most experienced.
Also we only scraped in second place because spurs had a freak result in their last game.

I prefer to be positive about that season. Rather than focusing on us screwing up, I refer to it as the season where Spurs came third in a two horse race :sunglasses:

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We galloped past their horse and pipped them to second place…on a donkey :wink:

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Probably because everyone knew all the other top clubs would rectify it in the near future and win league titles soon, that season was Wenger/ Arsenal’s one and only chance.

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Chelsea got rinsed by everyone for that season, but then they went and won the fucking league again the following season.

It’s also an Arsenal forum, that’s why two years on people are still bitter about our shortcomings but don’t give a shit about what other teams did that season.

How the fuck does this need explaining to you?

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