How could they ever rule that out though. It seems somewhat a ridiculous statement.
Ah ffs just seen Olivia Campbell the girl whoās mum was on tv this morning (the above video) saying sheās missing was the top trend on twitter and feared the worst. I clicked it and sadly itās been confirmed by her mum she has died 
RIP Olivia 
https://twitter.com/GrandeFanLove_/status/867177269105754116
Heartbreaking
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So you close down places of worship and think that wouldnāt accentuate the issue? Youāre just alienating a lot more people.
And then you close places of education as well? The man who carried out the attack - is there any indication he was educated in a British Islamic school to justify such extreme response?? Furthermore, is there even a strong link between Islamic schools and domestic extremism/radicalisation? Iād be interested to know if there is.
For me, foreign policy is what needs to be addressed first and foremost. Thatās where the real root of the problem lies. Years and years of really really bad interventionist politics has brought rise to the threat of domestic terrorism. Iām pretty sure Iād be willing to hazard a strong bet that if Britain had never involved themselves in Iraq, Afghanistan or any of the uprisings that followed the Arab Spring then things like this would be far far less likely to happen.
Iām massively against all forms of war and against all forms of extremism. No political cause is worth the blood of innocent people.
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Itās this kind of mindless terrorism that makes Trumpās claim that he is āgoing to wipe out terrorismā look completely stupid.
The people who do this sort of thing arenāt remotely normal and will will stoop to levels most people canāt imagine.
It is impossible to stop this sort of thing, and itās arrogant statements like the one from Trump, that are just inviting even more trouble to the general population.
I think what Cristo means is closing down places of worship where it has been verified an extremist interpretation of the faith is being practiced, in this case Islam. If authorities know a mosque has ties to Wahhabism and salafism, that it preaches to kill the infidel, apostates and punish those who do not follow their strict interpretation of Islam, then I think it is fair to demand these places to be closed down, these imams to be sent away. If you feel compelled these places belong here, then you can move to Saudi Arabia, where no other religion than Islam is allowed and the country is governed by sharia law.
Education is another important facet. Christo I think said, under Tories education will be even worse, so that wonāt be able to help. Just like you, I think education is a cornerstone of a successful society. More money and emphasize should be put into education.
To me, education should be completely universal and liberal. Religious schools, Islamic, Christian and Jewish and any other religion, should be not allowed. Religion per definition is an us versus them environment. āWeā are better than them, for believing x over y. Sorry. No more privilege for these institutions. You worship at home and at your place of worship, but you should not create a parallel society in every area of life.
I do agree we should not intervene. Stop bombing for oil and democracy and generally pull out everywhere where we are. However, salafist and ISIS ideology is rooted in the Quran and its more intolerant interpretation of coexisting. I am not so sure they wouldnāt find other justification for causing havoc.
I wish like most of us that we all could live together. That we all be kind and honest to each other. That you can believe whatever you want, have the skin color you have, be of the gender you are and be treated equally and fair.
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Top class from the Boston Globeā:clap:
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Pizzaās must have gone cold
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Such a nice gesture. 
ļø
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That is yeah. Fair play to her (or her PR advisors)
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No doubt her team would have suggested it but Iām sure within herself sheād have wanted to do something for those affected.
I saw that sheād cancelled or postponed her tour to go home to her family and there are people in the comments sections slagging her off for not hanging around and helping out. Some people can be such heartless bastards, sheās only young and she must be pretty torn up about this whole thing.
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I donāt know much about Ariana Grande at all but I think if it were me, Iād take some considerable time before getting on stage again
Couldnāt believe some press reports where it was questioned if she would cancel her upcoming concerts, as if the answer would be anything other than a resounding āyesā
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Nice one Arsenal.
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Donāt get it twisted JB. She is human and Iām sure she has been affected by the situation. I think cancelling the O2 show was the right call, but anything further is OTT. This attack wasnāt on her, lets not make it about her. Also I believe the PR team are there to make the best out of any situation, no matter how detrimental the situation may be. Thatās just the cynic in me. (not indicating your post was aimed at me btw)
And still got abusedā¦ Twitter Cretinsā¦
Canāt even begin to imagine how she or any of the people who lost a loved one, must feel. How do you come to terms with something like this. Itās just so sad.
Not terrorist related but what the fuckā¦
Love this club. Powerful statement from Ollie ļø
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Relative of an old high school friend of mine. Devastating to read the news on my FB feed yesterday and hits home even more when someone from your community has to grasp the horrific reality that theyāve lost a young loved one in this way.